They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie. I never did have much of a job, jest tending de calves mostly. His pappy was old Captain "Rich Joe" Vann, and he had been dead ever since long before de War. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. When meal time come, someone ring that bell and all the slaves know its time to eat and stop their work. Christmas lasted a whole month. I wouldn't go, so he sent Isaac and Joe Vann dat had been two of Old Captain Joe's negroes to talk to me. Vinita was the closeset town to where I was born; when I get older seem like they call it "the junction" on account the rails cross there, but I never ride on the trains, just stay at home. He got that message to the captain just the same. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. Couldn't nobody go there, less they turn the key. Everybody was happy. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. Some of the Masters family was always going down to the river and back, and every time they come in I have to fix something to eat. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. Vann and several other Cherokees faced eviction during the US government's Indian Removal policy. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. Oh the news traveled up and down the river. He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Don't know much about him. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. Lucinda Vann tells an unusual story of plantation life from the perspective of a house slave who was born with privileges. Im glad the wars over and I am free to meet God like anybody else, and my grandchildren can learn to read and write. A few days later they caught up with the slaves, still in Indian Territory. Sometimes they fish in the Illinois river, sometimes in the Grand, but they always fish the same way. When night came we cut grass and put the bed clothes on top for a bed. We stayed here till everything got fixed up, then we went back to Mexico. This is a reconstruction of the non-Indian immediate relatives of Chief James Vann, based on the solid evidence of Cherokee sources (especially the Moravian Diaries at Spring Place,GA 1800-1836), plus confirming information obtained from postings on the Vann Family Forum: He had black eyes and mustache but his hair was iron gray, and everybody like him because he was so good natured and kind. Yes I was! A bunch of us who was part Indian and part colored, we got our bed clothes together some hams and a lot of coffee and flour and started to Mexico. Lord yes, su-er. Young Master never whip his slaves, but if they dont mind good he sell them off sometimes. There was Mr. Jim Collins, and Mr. Bell, and Mr. Dave Franklin, and Mr. Jim Sutton and Mr. Blackburn that lived around close to us and dey all had slaves. Pedigree report of John Joseph Vann, son of Edward Ned Vann Sr and Mary Lewis Barnes (Ani'-Ga'tge'wi = Kituah or Wild Potato), born in 1736 in Jonesboro, Washington Co., Tennessee. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. to me".1 At that time, no doubt many in the legal profession were similarly placed. The Vanns were a prolific family who reused many names, so later in life he was referred to as "Rich Joe." He was one of eight children born to his father's nine wives. What you can expect from tree service professionals: Tree service companies offer a full range of tree care services. Master Jim and Missus Jennie was good to their slaves. After several days of pursuit, the Indians caught up with the escaped slaves and a heated battle inflicted casualties on both sides. My husband was a Cherokee born Negro, too, and when he got mad he forgit all the English he knowed. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. He would tell em plain before hand, "Now no trouble." Joe had two wives, one was named Missus Jennie. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. No fusses, no bad words, no nothin like that. He related an unpleasant encounter with "Little Joe" Vann, son of "Rich Joe" Vann. Rich Joe Vann died in Oct. 1844 when the boiler exploded on his steamboat, the "Lucy Walker" during a race with another vessel near New Albany, Ind. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. 61 (Spring, 1983). When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having a good time. Everybody laugh and was happy. 5. This was before the war. We lived there a long time, and I was old enough to remember setting in the yard watching the river (Grand River) go by, and the Indians go by. Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his negroes before I was born. Run it to the bank! but it sunk and him and old Master died. He passed away on 21 Feb 1809 in Shot at Buffington Tavern, GA, USA. There were some Cherokee slaves that were taken to Mexico, however, she makes vivid references to Seminole leaders John Horse, and Wild Cat. Some officers stayed in de house for a while and tore everything up or took it off. Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. I lost my land trying to live honest and pay my debts. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. The cooks would bring big iron pots, and cook things right there. Cherokee tribes are native to the North American continent. Dey would come in de night and hamstring de horses and maybe set fire to de barn, and two of em named Joab Scarrel, and Tom Starr killed my pappy one night just before the War broke out. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. There was a big dinner bell in the yard. In ever did see no money neither, until time of de War or a little before. She bossed all the other colored women and see that they sew it right. Chief Joseph Vann Family Tree Check All Members List, June Carter Family Tree Check All Members List. As a result, they had to settle in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma). My uncle used to baptize 'em. Everbody goin' on races gamblin', drinkin', eatin', dancin', but it as all behavior everything all right. They make pens out in the shallow water with poles every little ways from the river banks. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. We had meat, bread, rice, potatoes and plenty of fish and chicken. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. Then the preacher put you under water three times. When the war broke out, lots of Indians mustered up and went out of the territory. I dont know what he done after that. After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. Old Mistress had inherited some property from her pappy and dey had de slave money and when dey turned everything into good money after de War dat stuff only come to about six thousand dollars in good money, she told me. At night dem trundles was jest all over the floor, and in de morning we shoved em back under de big beds to git dem outn' de way. The other tribes were the Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole.. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. Had sacks and sacks of money. Every morning the slaves would run to the commissary and get what they wanted for that day. A whole half of ribs sold for twenty-five cents. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. He sure stood good with de Cherokee neighbors we had, and dey all liked him. Historical records and family trees related to Cherokee Vann. Poor old master and mistress only lived a few years after de War. I thought it was mighty big and fine. We even had brown sugar and cane molasses most of de time before de War, sometimes coffee, too. I dunno her other name. The 1860 Census records for Oklahoma (the last Census of the slavery era), indicates that the Cherokees held 4,600 Negro slaves; the Chickasaws owned 975; the Choctaws owned, 2,344; the Creeks held 1,532; and the Seminoles reportedly owned 500. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. His favorite son, Joseph, may have worked as a gunsmith early in life, but it has not been documented. Dey only had two families of slaves wid about twenty in all, and dey only worked about fifty acres, so we sure did work every foot of it good. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. During their pursuit of the escaped Negroes, the Cherokee Militia discovered the bodies of the two slave bounty hunters. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. I would stay around about a week and help em and dey would try to git me to take something but I never would. We had to have a pass to go any place to have signing or praying, and den they was always a bunch of patrollers around to watch everything we done. He jest kept him and he was a good negro after that. But about the home--it was a double-room log house with a cooling-off space between the rooms, all covered with a roof, but no porch, and the beds was made of planks, the table of pine boards, and there was never enough boxes for the chairs so the littlest children eat out of a tin pan off the floor. Do you know what I am going to do? Master's name was Joe Sheppard, and he was a Cherokee Indian. I remember that home after the war brought my pappa back home. There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobdy ever lacked for nothing. Smoeone call our names and everybody get a present. Yes, Lord Yes. Mammy was the house girl and she weaved the cloth and my Aunt Tilda dyed the cloth with indigo, leaving her hands blue looking most of the time. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. There was music, fine music. Used to go up and down the river in his steamboat. They are one of five tribes known as the Five Civilized Tribes. Some of us had money. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. Then, in Section 2, John Vann's own records will be presented as unembellished as can be in order to glimpse him at work as a Chickasaw packman, Cherokee trader and government translator. Nearly a century later (in 1932), Joseph Vann's grandson, R. P. Vann, told author Grant Foreman that Joseph Vann had built a house about a mile south of Webbers Falls (Oklahoma) "a handsome homebuilt just like the old Joe Vann home in Georgia." I had the money Black Hock had won on the track. I'se born right in my master and missus bed. She was raised up at dat mill, but she was borned in Tennessee before dey come out to de nation. He was a Native American Cherokee leader, businessman, slave owner, and planter. They'd come to the door like this, "sh.." and go out quick again. Everybody pretty near to crazy when they bring that arm home. I had to work in the kitchen when I was a gal, and they was ten or twelve children smaller than me for me to look after, too. Everything we had was made by my folks. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. Although Joseph Vann's body was never found, slave Lucinda Vann revealed that one of his arms had been found, positively identified, and taken to Vann's home at Webbers Falls, Oklahoma, where it was preserved for many years. I sure did love her. I never forget when they sold off some more negroes at de same time, too and put dem all in a pen for de trader to come and look at. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. Lord, Yes! We never put on de shoes until about late November when de front begin to hit regular and split our feet up, and den when it git good and cold and de crop all gathered in anyways, they is nothing to do 'cepting hog killing and a lot of wood chopping and you don't get cold doing dem two things. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. Mammy went to a mean old man named Pepper Goodman and he took her off down de river, and pretty soon Mistress tell me she died cause she can't stand de rough treatment. He used to take us to where Hyge Park is and we'd all go fishin'. Joseph Vann, the son of Chief James Vann and his wife Margaret Scott Vann, was a lad of 12 when his father was killed, in 1809. Well, I'll tell you, you pull it out from the wall something like a shelf. Then I had clean ward clothes and I had to keep them clean, too! Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. My referees on the grant application were Dame Sian Elias, Chief Justice of New Zealand, and Sir David Williams, University of Cambridge. They put white cloths on the shelves and laid the good on it. The commissary was full of everyting good to eat. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. Had sacks and sacks of money. I know he is right, too. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. He owned 110 slaves and on his plantation there were thirty-five houses, a mill and a ferry boat. One night a runaway negro come across form Texas and he had de blood hounds after him. We all come back to de old place and find de negro cabins and barns burned down and de fences all gone and de field in crab grass and cockleburs. By and by I married Nancy Holdebrand what lived on Greenleaf Creek, bout four miles northwest of Gore. Didn't you never see one of them slidin' beds? They never sent us anywhere with a cotton dress. One time old Master and another man come and took some calves off and Pappy say old Master taking dem off to sell I didn't know what sell meant and I ast Pappy is he going to bring em back when he git through selling them. There was a big church. When dat Civil War come along I was a pretty big boy and I remember it good as anybody. He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. Sometims just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. Olia Lee Clifton, 91, passed . Jennie was born on December 23 1804, in Georgia, USA. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. I never would hear much about the war that my father was in, but I know he fought for the North. Indians made us keep our master's name. My mother died when I'se small and my father married Delia Vann. I'm goin' give Lucy this black mare. Everybody had a good time. Everybody cry, everybody'd pretty nearly die. After the old time rich folks die, them that had their money buried, they com back and haunt the places where it is. I had one brother and one sister sold when I was little and I dont remember the names. Pappys name was Kalet Vann, and mammys name was Sally. After the war I married Paul Alexander, but I never took his name. Dey come to de house one time when he was gone to Fort Smith and us children told dem he was at Honey Springs, but they knowed better and when he got home he said somebody shot at him and bushwhacked him all the way from Wilson's Rock to dem Wildhorse Mountains, but he run his horse like de devil was sitting on his tail and dey never did hit him. Their slaves also helped build the nearby Moravian mission and school in Spring Place. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. My pappy run away one time, four or five years before I was born, mammy tell me, and at that time a whole lot of Cherokee slaves run off at once. Dat was one poor negro dat never go away to de North and I was sorry for him cause I know he must have had a mean master, but none of us Sheppard negroes, I mean the grown ones, tried to get away. I believe it is the same person.) He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. My uncle Joe was de slave boss and he tell us what de Master say do. I don't know what he done after that. We had out time to go to bed and our time to get up in the morning. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. We left de furniture and only took grub and tools and bedding and clothes, cause they wasn't very big wagons and was only single-yoke. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. I'd like to go where we used to have picnics down below Webbers Falls. Everything was cheap. Someone maybe would be playing a fiddle or a banjo. Sometimes the sleep was too deep and somebody would be late, but the master never punish anybody, and I never see anybody whipped and only one slave sold. Well, I go ahead, and make me a crop of corn all by myself and then I don't know what to do wid it. Joseph, 11 years old, was in the room when his father, James, was murdered, in Buffingtons Tavern in 1809 near the site of the family-owned ferry. People all a visitin'. That meant she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobody ever lacked for nothing. He tell us for we start, what we must say and what to do. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. Sometimes she pull my hair. You know just what day you have to be back too. I never did see my daddy excepting when I was a baby and I only know what my mammy told me about him. They didn't go away, they stayed, but they tell us colored folks to go if we wanted to. Seneca Chism was my father. He died when the boat's boilers exploded. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. She inherit about half a dozen slaves, and say dey was her own and old master can't sell one unless she give him leave to do it. And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day. Old Mistress had a good cookin stove, but most Cherokees had only a big fireplace and pot hooks. They wasn't very big either, but one day two Cherokees rode up and talked a long time, then young Master came to the cabin and said they were sold because mammy couldn't make them mind him. Lord yes su-er. Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. The spring time give us plenty of green corn and beans too. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. He would sing for us, and I'd like to hear them old songs again! We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. Pappa got the soldier fever from being in the War; no, I don't mean like the chills and fever, but just a fever to be in the army, I guess for he joined the regular U.S. Army after a while, serving five years in the 10th Cavalry at Fort Sill during the same time John Adair of Tahelquah and John Gallagher of Muskogee was in the army. If somebody bad sick he git de doctor right quick, and he don't let no negroes mess around wid no poultices and teas and sech things, like cupping-horns neither! This valuable property became a prize for the white man when the laws of Georgia were extended over the Cherokee Nation. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. Lord no, he didn't. They brought it home and my granmother knew it was Joe's. His Uncle John Vann was the son in law of Terrepin and grandson-in-law of Oconastota; Oconastota was. The band of escaping slaves came upon two white men who were fugitive slave hunters returning eight Negroes they had recaptured to their Choctaw master. The Vanns later relocated to Indian Territory, present-day Oklahoma. Joseph H. Vann was born in Spring Place, Georgia. I think I hear 'em say mamma was born on Bull Creek; that somewhere up near Kansas, maybe near Coffeyville. Others were returned to their owners. But later on I got a freedman's allotment up in dat part close to Coffeyville, and I lived in Coffeyville a while but I didn't like it in Kansas. The grandson reported that the Vann Family lived in that house until "the War," when some 3,000 federal troops descended upon Webbers Falls. They had one son: Isaac Vann. We got letters all the time form Indians back in the territory. They was Cherokee Indians. Old Master Joe had a big steam boat he called the Lucy Walker, and he run it up and down the Arkansas and the Mississippi and the Ohio river, old Mistress say. I remember Chief John Ross. Source: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm [3] Lucy Walker steamboat disaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster [1]. On his extensive plantation some 800 acres were under cultivation. When crop was laid by de slaves jest work round at dis and dat and keep tol'able busy. We went down to the river for baptizings. Old Master bought de cotton in Ft. Smith, because he didn't raise no cotton, but he had a few sheep and we had wool mix for winter. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. Courtesy of Atlanta History Center. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. Right after the War, de Cherokees that had been wid the South kind of pestered the freedmen some, but I was so small dey never bothered me; jest de grown ones. They'd cut brush saplings, walk out into the stream ahead of the pen and chase the fish down to the riffle where they'd pick em up. You know just what day you have to be back too. Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptized if we want to, but I wasn't baptized till after the War. Web. relatives of chief james vann By jerry l. clark December 12, 2001 at 10:21:03. Thompson, mixed blood Cherokee Indian, but before that pappy had been owned by three different master; one was the Rich Joe Vann who lived down at Webber Falls and another was Chief Lowery of the Cherokees. Young, Mary., "The Cherokee Nation: Mirror of the Republic", (American Quarterly), Vol. Joseph Vann was born February 11, 1798 near Springplace in the Cherokee Nation (now Georgia) the son of James Vann and Nancy Brown. Don't know where the other one lived. By 1800 slavery had become firmly entrenched in the Five Civilized Tribes. My marster and missus buried their money and valuables everywhere. on the Ohio River. Half brother of James Fields; Lucy Hicks; Isabel Wolf; Delila Fields; Charles Timberlake and 8 others; Jesse Vann; Delilah Amelia McNair; Joseph Vann; James Vann; Sarah 'Sally' Nicholson (Vann); John Hon John Vann; Robert B. Meanwhile, the Cherokees had presented their news of the slave revolt to the Cherokee National Council at the capital, Tahlequah, and gained approval for a Cherokee Militia unit to pursue, arrest, and deliver the fugitive slaves to Fort Gibson. Sometimes we got to ride on one, cause we belonged to Old Jim Vann. Dey was all wid the south, but dey was a lot of dem Pin Indians all up on de Illinois River and dey was wid de North and dey taken it out on de slave owners a lot before de War and during it too. Marster and Missus was dead. My names' Lucinda Vann, I've been married twice but that don't make no difference. I went to see dem lots of times and they was always glad to see me. He didn't want em to imagine he give one more than he give the other. Women came in satin dresses, all dressed up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. The only song I remember from the soldiers was" "Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree," and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. He moved his family to this location and resided there two or three years, until he could establish himself in the west. Lots of soldiers around all the time though. De furniture is all gone, and some said de soldiers burned it up for firewood. She bossed all the other colored women and see that they sew it right. One year later my sister Phyllis was born on the same place and we been together pretty much of the time ever since, and I reckon dere's only one thing that could separate us slave born children. I always think of my old Master as de one dat freed me, and anyways Abraham Lincoln and none of his North people didn't look after me and buy my crop right after I was free like old Master did. I wore loom cloth clothes, dyed in copperas what the old Negro women and the old Cherokee women made. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. It is located at the intersection of U.S. Highway 76 and Georgia 225 in Murray County, on the outskirts of Chatsworth in northwest Georgia. He was descended from Robert The Bruce, King of Scotland. Yes, Lord Yes. She had some land close to Catoosa and some down on Greenleaf Creek. He sold one of my brothers, and one sister because they kept running off. Born in Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States on 11 Feb 1765 to John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann and WahLi Wa-Wli aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan. Tall and slim and handsome. John Joseph Vann B: 1730 Scotland, M: Wai-Li Princess of Cherokee - 1763,D: 1780 Tennessee, shot by son James (Chief Crazy James) John Vann. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe. Interestingly, Mrs. Vann also speaks of some time that her family spent before and during the war in Mexico. I slept on a sliding bed. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. See other search results for Chief Joseph David VANN Ready to discover your family story? Person Interviewed: Betty Robertson Location: Fort Gibson, Oklahoma Age: 93 I was born close to Webbers Falls, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation, in the same year that my pappy was blowed up and killed in the big boat accident that killed my old Master. "Rich Joe" owned a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of the Ooltewah Creek. MLA Source Citation: AccessGenealogy.com. When they get it they take it back to their cabin. We was at dat place two years and made two little crops. When the War come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen, and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder, I don't know, but that was before my time. There was music, fine music. Us Cherokee slaves seen lots of green corn shootings and de like of dat but we never had no games of our own. My names' Lucinda Vann, I've been married twice but that don't make no difference. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasn't so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. The slaves of the Creeks also joined those of the Cherokees and the band set out for Mexico. When the Cherokees discovered that so many of their slaves had fled, they organized a search party to pursue them. World War I began in 1914. Den I went to a subscription school for a little while, but didn't get much learning. My parents are both dead now--seems like fifty, maybe sixty year ago. Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his Negroes before I was born. chief vann family tree. When I left Mrs. McGee's I worked about three years for Mr. Sterling Scott and Mr. Roddy Reese. I couldnt buy anything in slavery time, so I jest give the piece of money to the Vann children. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. The Chief Vann House, built between 1804 and 1806 by the Cherokee leader James Vann, is called the "Showplace of the Cherokee Nation .". Nails cost big money and Old Master's blacksmith wouldn't make none 'ceptin a few for old Master now an den so we used wooden dowels to put things together. I had me a good blaze-faced horse for dat. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. I had a brother named Harry who belonged to the Vann family at Tahlequah. Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away. They wanted everybody to know we was Marster Vann's slaves. and. townhomes for rent in pg county. I got a pass and went to see dem sometimes, and dey was both treated mighty fine. Elizabeth Scott; parents of Delilah Vann; married Nancy Brown; parents of Mary b. Born 11 February 1798 - Spring Place, Cherokee Nation-East, IT., GA. Deceased 23 October 1844 - Aboard the Lucy Walker,aged 46 years old Parents James Vann, Chief 1809 Nancy Ann Timberlake Brown 1780-1850 Spouses and children Married, Georgia., USA, to Elizabeth Catherine Rowe 1798- with Living Vann Clarinda Rebecca Vann ca 1817- Delia Vann 1834- Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. Its inception resulted from many trends in European society, culture, and diplomacy during the late 19th century. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. My mother was born way back in the hills of the old Flint district of the Cherokee Nation; just about where Scraper Oklahoma is now. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. Biography. The young, single girls lived with the old folks in another big long house. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. Some of the Indian families was Joe Dirt Eater, Six Killer (some of the Six Killers live a few miles SE of Afton at this time, 1938), Chewey Noi, and Gus Buffington. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. We went on a place in de Red River Bottoms close to Shawneetown and not far from de place where all de wagons crossed over to go into Texas. And we learned some things about religion from an old colored preacher named Tom Vann. The beautiful brick house was surrounded by kitchens, slave quarters and mills, with apple and peach orchards covering the adjacent hills. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and old Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. He never seen them neither. The people conducting the interviews from 1936-1938 were instructed to write the material gleaned from the interviews as closely as possible to the speech patterns of the former slaves they interviewed. Joseph married Jennie Vann (born Doublehead) on date. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. TRI Train Rental GmbH. Circa 1736 1815 Chief John Joseph Vann 1736 1815 Kansas. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. We camp at dat place a while and old Mistress stay in de town wid some kinfolks. Dat was de time dat was the hardest and everything was dark and confusion. Dey was both raised round Webber's Falls somewhere. There was great big wooden scaffolds. Someone rattled the bones. Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky, and back. Bus operators. (Note: Can we assume this is the same Joseph Vann that was given 150 acres below Keg Creek on the Savannah River (Dec 1764).It is 9 years later and there are 4 more children. He come to our house and Mistress said for us Negroes to give him something to eat and we did. Dey kept after me about a year, but I didn't go anyways. I been a good Christian ever since I was baptised, but I keep a little charm here on my neck anyways, to keep me from having the nose bleed. Them Pins was after Master all de time for a while at de first of de War, and he was afraid to ride into Ft. Smith much. When Mammy went old Mistress took me to de Big House to help her and she was kind to me like I was part of her own family. Records may include photos, original documents, family history, relatives, specific dates, locations . Then I had clean warm clothes and I had to keep them clean too! Sometimes she pull my hair. Wife belong to de church and all de children too, and I think all should look after saving their souls so as to drive de nail in, and den go about de earth spreading kindness and hoeing de row clean so as to clinch dat nail and make dem safe for Glory. Sometimes we got to ride on one, cause we belonged to Old Jim Vann. Pappy's name was Caesar Sheppard and Mammy's name was Easter. The big house was made of log and stone and had big mud fireplaces. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. Chief Joseph David VANNfamily tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann 1735- 1815 Waw Li Otterlifter 1750- 1835 Wrong Chief Joseph David VANN? I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls. I got all my money and fine clothes from the marster and the missus. Again the Indian command system lost the Chickamauga their last chance to carry their colors to the Clinch River. Pappy is buried in the church yard on Four Mile Branch. Everybody laugh and was happy. I go to this house, you come to my house. All Indians lived around there, the real colored settlement was four mile from us, and I wasn't scared of them Indians for pappa always told me his master Henry Nave, was his own father; that make me part Indian and the reason my hair is long, straight and black like a horse mane. Edit your search or learn more MK DIXON Funeral Home, 337-940-9253 . Everybody had a good time on old Jim Vann's plantation. That sure was a tough time for the soldiers, for father said they fought and fought before the "Seesesh" soldiers finally took off to the south and the northern troops went back to Fort Gibson. Meany and Curtis helped Joseph's family bury their chief near the village of Nespelem, Washington. Don't know what they ever did with that arm. That was sort of vault, where the family valuables was kept. He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. The married folks lived in little houses and there was big long houses for all the single men. Marvin Lee Jenkins Jr. 07222022 Full Obituary Charles Edward Johnson 07202022 Full Obituary Wanda Lee Dewberry . But we couldn't learn to read or have a book, and the Cherokee folks was afraid to tell us about the letters because they have a law you go to jail and a big fine if you show a slave about the letters. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days and go to Fort Gibson. Its got a buokeys and a lead bullet in it. The following oral history narrative is from the The WPA Oklahoma Slave Narratives in the Library of Congress, edited by T. Lindsay Baker, Julie Philips Baker: Yes Sa. Deutsche Bahn Regional. Poeple all a visitin'. Chief Vann House Historic Site 22.44 KMs away from Cohutta Wilderness The Chief Vann House Historic Site is a 19th century plantation house that has been carefully restored to its original grandeur. I go to this house, you come to my house. McFadden, Marguerite, "The Saga of 'Rich Joe' Vann", Chronicles of Oklahoma, Vol. Old Master Joe had a mighty big farm and several families of Negroes, and he was a powerful rich man. I always pick a whole passel of muscadines for old Master and he make up sour wine, and dat helps out when we git the bowel complaint from eating dat fresh pork. When father was young he would go hunting the fox with his master, and fishing in the streams for the big fish. I was born after the War, about 1868, and what I know 'bout slave times is what my pappa told me, and maybe that not be very much. She had belonged to Joe Hildebrand and he was kin to old Steve Hildebrand dat owned de mill on Flint Creek up in de Going Snake District. Father of Nancy Vann; David Vann; Sallie Blackburn Vore; William Vann; Sophia S. Johnson and 9 others; Charles J. Vann; Delilah Amelia Brewer; Joseph W. Vann; Jane Elizabeth Vann; James Springston Vann; Mary Frances Vann; John Shepherd Vann, Sr.; Henry Clay Vann and Minerva Vann less His master Daniel Nave, was Cherokee. Everything was stripedy cause Mammy like to make it fancy. He was a slave on the Chism plantation, but came to Vann's all the time on account of the horses. I was afraid I would get cheated out of it cause I can't figure and read, so I tell old Master about it and he bought it off'n me. The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. Among the several hundred slaves owned by the Vanns at that time, many were skilled craftsmen and tradesmen capable of helping build such a fine house. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. He builds the large brick mansion house at Spring Place, Murray Country, Georgia, which stands today as a monument at its owner. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years ago, right on this porch. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. Discover the family tree of Joseph William Vann for free, and learn about their family history and their ancestry. Oh Lord, no. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. I've heard em tell of rich Joe Vann. The last one was named for Hubbard Ross; he was related to Chief John Ross and was some kin to Daniel Nave, my father's master. We made money and kept it in a sack. My brothers was name Sone and Frank. Oh Lord, no. Born on February 11, 1789, he was also a planter, and businessman who owned slaves, and steamboats among others. Correction Note: The preceding comments by the interviewer incorrectly depicts the relationship between the family members. When the European settlers came over in the 16th century, the Cherokee Native American Indians were living in the East and Southeast United States. Joseph Vann *Joseph Vann was born on this date in 1798. I eat from a big pan set on the floor---there was no chairs--and I slept in a trundle bed that was pushed under the big bed in the daytime. I'se born right in my master and missus bed. She was weavin when the case came up so quick, missus Jennie put her in her own bed and took care of her. Some Negroes say my pappy kept hollering, "Run it to the bank! They taken some of their slaves with them. When the last of the Cherokees were forcibly moved west in 1838, government records indicate that 1,592 black slaves were moved to Indian Territory with their owners. There'd be a whole wagon-load of things come and be put on the tree. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evening's and make wooden spoons out of maple. He say he wanted to git de family all together agin. All the Vann marsters was good looking. The Chief Vann House is the first brick residence in the Cherokee Nation, and has been called the "Showplace of the Cherokee Nation".Owned by the Cherokee Chief James Vann, the Vann House is a Georgia Historic Site on the National Register of Historic Places and one of the oldest remaining structures in the northern third of the state of Georgia.It is located in Murray County, on the outskirts . Because mamma was sick then he brought her sister Sucky Pea and her husband, Charley Pea, to help around wid him. I don't know how old I is; some folks ay I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. They tell us what was happening and what to do. Master Jim and Missus Jennie was good to their slaves. He was called by his contemporaries "Rich Joe" and many legends of his wealth ware still told among the Cherokees. He worked in the gold mines. In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. Trusted by millions of genealogists since 2003. . It was "Don't Call the Roll, Jesus Because I'm Coming Home." Chief Joseph, the Younger (1840 - geni family tree An indomitable voice of conscience for the West, in September 1904, still in exile from his homeland, Chief Joseph died, according to his doctor, "of a broken heart". It's on records somewhere; old Seneca Chism and his family. My father was a carpenter and blacksmith as well as race-horse man and he wanted to make money. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Falls. I dunno her other name. Then the preacher put you under water three times. Master Thompson brought us from Texas when I was too little to remember about it, and I din't know how long it was before we was all sold to John Harnage, "Marse John" was his pet name and he liked to be called that-a-way. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. Lots of bad things have come to me, but the good Father, high up, He take care of me. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. 467-91. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. In slavery time the Cherokee Negroes do like anybody else when they is a death, jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. Because I'se so little, Missus Jennie took me into the Big house and raised me. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evenings and make wooden spoons out of maple. They got over in the Creak country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. One of the Six Killer women was mighty good to us and we called her "mammy", that a long time after my mammy die though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Vann, Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States, Oct 23 1844 - Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, United States. Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Masters place and all the Negroes mighty scared, but he didnt sell my pappy off. Dat just about lasted em through until dey died, I reckon. There was lots of preserves. Do you know what I am going to do? When he get home he call my uncle and ask about what we done all day and tell him what we better do de next day. We never had no school in slavery and it was agin' the law for anybody to even show a negro de letters and figures, so no Cherokee slave could read. We didn't suffer, we had plenty to eat. It had no windows, but it had a wood floor that was kept clean with plenty of brushings, and a fireplace where mammy'd cook the turnip greens and peas and corn--I still likes the cornbread with fingerprints baked on it like in the old days when it was cooked on a skillet over the hot wood ashes. Cornelius Neely Nave was a grandson of Talaka Vann, a slave owned by Joseph Vann in Webbers Falls. Husband of Polly Vann and Jennie Vann My pappy was a kind of a boss of the negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to Old Maser Joe. I spent happy days on the Harnage plantation going squirrel hunting with the master---he was always riding, while I run along and throw rocks in the trees to scare the squirrels so's Marse John could get the aim on them; pick a little cotton and put it in somebody's hamper (basket) and run races with other colored boys to see who would get to saddle the masters horse, while the master would stand laughing by the gate to see which boy won the race. When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of Negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptised. The fugitive slaves killed the two bounty hunters and the slaves they had been returning joined those attempting to reach Mexico. Son of James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) Crazy Chief Vann and Nancy (Go-sa-du-i-sga) Timberlake Christmas morning marster and missus come out on the porch and all the colored folks gather around. We had to get up early and comb our hair first thing. A Scottish trader came to Cherokee Territory in 1755, married Wai-Li and became a licensed trader-interpreter for the Queen of England. The following slave narratives all mention the Vanns. Excepting master and mistress, couldn't nobody put things in there but her. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboast could't run. They get something they need too. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. De brothers was Sam and Eli. One and a half years after the war we all come back to the old plantation. He went to the war for three years wid the Union soldiers. Seem like it take a powerful lot of fighting to rid the country of them Rebs. I raised eleven children just on de sweat of my hands and none of dem ever tasted anything dat was stole. That was where all the food was kept. 1800. Some of the old chief's names was Gopher John, John Hawk and Wild Cat. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. When de War come old Master seen he was going into trouble and he sold off most of de slaves. Eventually the Cherokee council granted Joseph the inheritance in line with his father's wish; this included 2,000 acres (8.1 km2) of land, trading posts, river ferries, and the Vann House in Spring Place, Georgia. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. Of course I hear about Abraham Lincoln and he was a great man, but I was told mostly by my children when dey come home from school about him. After the explosion someone found an arm up in a tree on the bank of the river. Us slaves lived in log cabins dat only had one room and no windows so we kept de doors open most of de time. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. 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