Springcreek, the 8013 you have listed. 45 0.1985 0.275 Lyle Dickerson (Michigan) 6-strip Tonkin bamboo Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. Chris likes it for Smallmouth on the Shenandoah. 0.229 The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. 30 0.151 166917 I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". The taper is designed for trout fishing. (Lee Koch), I primarily use RodDNA for my taper selection. You may, or may not, as a rod designer, wish to achieve either, but probably not both! All were very powerful eight weight rods with most of the action in the upper half. Rod makers history, value guide and general discussion, Link to Orvis Database by Greg Reynolds, Link to EC Powell's Mechanics of fly casting. by Jim 05/08/09 01:45, Post (Ted Godfrey), I can say the one I don't like is the one in Ray Goulds fine book, 'Cane Rods, Tips and Tapers', page 85. If you 'hide' columns you can then compare and easily see differences in any combination of selected rod tapers. $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. Chris' rod is also an 861711D. I don't particularly like the idea of an "exact" clone, it takes away from the makers personal touch IMHO and never will be the real deal. .but like most opinions you will find that many on this list (and in the world at large) are not going to agree with you. I don't think anyone fishes the same. by Lee Koch 06/12/16 21:18, Post The line weight standards are simply points in what is really a continuous spectrum. I won't know the difference if it isn't perfect but want to do things approximately correct. (Robin Haywood). In the original Ritz conception the rod, or the taper, was the tip. If you move it up to the mid section you might add a hinge that gets involved in the normal cast.. which is usually to be avoided. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. Short cased and portable. Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? Know what to expect when you visit LAN, so you can feel prepared for your upcoming trip! 0.248 Good luck. As good a seven and a half foot 3-piece rod taper as any ever designed. by Morten 06/12/16 08:37, Post I recently sold a rod to a customer blind on the phone. .266@20 However if we can define specific regions (tip, middle, butt) and understand the effect of removing or adding material in these areas. Latterly, they considered that a fiberglass butt section would solve all their troubles. 40 .202 .375 All rights reserved. If you add bamboo the the tip of the rod, you have changed its mass (MOI/MOE) relative to what it was. But more relevant and to the point, I bought a single tip Dickerson 7613 from John and he recently provided me with a second tip from pre-embargo cane and original Dickerson hardware, and the action is a dead ringer for the original Dickerson 7613. Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. I do find that I am using much shorter rods than I did, I think its the American influence of this Listserv! 5 0.088 112541 Contact us to learn more about how we can help! Pt Butt Tip Sold Out $4,050.00 Description Particulars For your consideration is a Lyle Dickerson model 8013 bamboo fly rod made in 1948. Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. Dickerson 8615 - 8.5ft 2pc 7wt Posted by Gary Lohkamp,15 Jan 1997. Digger Digere. (Al Baldauski). 0 0.068 Interesting thoughts on line weight and the first 20", I will have to roll that one around in my head for awhile. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. As Lou points out, it is nicest with the kind of ferrule Dickerson made himself. by avyoung 06/12/16 18:13, Post For anyone who hasn't done so, it is a really simple and useful exercise to combine tapers for rods of the same length and line weight in a spreadsheet such as excel and make a line chart of them. To vary the straight line you can adjust the tip dimension. (Bob Norwood). Maybe they were off a little but I have no reason to believe that if his 13 die were 13.5 he would not have marked it thusly. When things are stated incorrectly, many of the newer makers on the list can get very confused. There are about 4 to 5 version of the 7013, I like the 1970 version the best. 0.248 It's the important half, too, the other one is less important than line weight, I refer you to the basic laws of aerodynamics, this post is already too long! 0.102 0.360 (Tim Pembroke). Just giving a different perspective and what has worked for me. If you are building in the drop at the ferule that Dickerson used, you will usually end up using a size larger ferrule than you'd normally think. You could have chosen Tom Fulk's true arc taper as the norm and try to describe the deviations from that. Summers Bamboo Fly Rods Company Vom Hofe Reels Young Winston Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. Dave Norling, Rush River Rods, makes a stepdown 13/12 ferrule, the only size stepdown that he offers , that works very well for this taper. (David Atchison), Didn't Dickerson make his own ferrules and weren't they slightly oversized? He has two Dickerson 7613 tapers, from 1952 and 1970, that show dimensions for a butt ferrule that would be 14/64 and a tip ferrule of 13/64. Click Here for Rod Raffle, Great Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly Fishing. If you're willing to accept our assumptions about varnish thickness and how to interpolate between measurements, then the table on the last page is the one to use. The rest of the shown increase is, in my opinion, just for looks. To accomplish this I have added bamboo to compensate for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides.. (Robin Haywood), Why don't you design some roll casting ability into every rod? Yes. (Larry Puckett), If you look at page 104 of the Dickerson book you will see his die set. Although it takes only 3 sizes to make a given size ferrule, he may have made a specialty set. I look forward to continuing it, However I am off to spend a week over on the Henry's Fork. The taper I used was from "The Lovely Reed." John's the guy. I own one of his 7612s and it's a wonderful rod. Is there anyone who could help us finding the right data conserning the taper. Can do a little better some days, but not always. I have had my rod alongside an original and except for mine being new they were identical. So it seems that we are actually in complete agreement. They were both practicing engineers! Following tests I no longer cook UHU. However, a straight line taper will create a rod in which the angle of deflection will increase from the butt to the tip at linear (constant)rate. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. by slate river 05/10/09 16:30, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. 0.120 My first few 8013's have 13/64 ferrules and one of them broke off INSIDE of the ferrule. (John Channer). if you don't have ~ 1/64 drop over the ferrule it isn't a true taper. All but the parabolic and the hinge will have the same ferrule dimension so tips and butt sections can be interchanged to create any of the major taper variations. Most of the classic rodmakers continually "fudged" their tapers over the years (sometimes unintentionally due to machine and pattern wear, and sometimes deliberately). 15 .258 .144 90 0.329 Just as the "super Z's" have a female barrel that is 2/64's larger than the bamboo sleeve or male insert, it is the same, but opposite with the Dickerson style "stepped" ferrules. Halstead. That's not how they're made, see my previous post, or get a set of old time Leonard, Payne, Dickerson or anyone else's, other than cheep H-I or Montague's which had a necked down female, and measure them, the bamboo opening on both kinds of ferrules is the same on the male as it is on the female. is obviously your opinion, which you are entitled to. I am assuming this is an unvarnished rod. Parabolic is a marketing term and thus entirely meaningless in discussions on rod design. (Henry Mitchell), Yes but those 2 particular tapers are what many Dickerson aficionados refer to as the 7613 Guide and are much more comfortable with a 6 wt line than a 5 wt. 0.241 (Larry Swearingen). Reducing material in the butt section will make the butt more limber and allow flex deeper into the butt. (Will McMurrey), A picture says a thousand words. 5 .096 .244 (Robin Haywood), Is 8'4" a bit long for a 4 wt.? It is obviously also extremely useful to compare one rod with others at the same time. 761510: 7'6" 3/2 5 wt. 0.168 Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. As Will predicts, this is a very pleasant and easy rod to cast. 50% due upon order placement; balance due upon completion. Do any rod makers sells rods they do not like? June - October The 1st station on the butt section is NOT .214, it should be.208@0, then as follows: .214@5 Tuesday - Sunday, 10am to 4pm, Winter It's why I'm fussy about ring weight on the tips of rods below #6. This rod consists of medium tempered cane constructed in a 3x3 node pattern with Dickerson tan wraps and black tipping. At Headwaters Bamboo Rod Company we build our rods based on proven "historical" tapers, meaning that the tapers we use were designed by Twentieth Century bamboo fly rod craftsmen. Bob through extensive research determined the tip dimensions for specific line weights and then calculated SLT for each. Remember that respect and civility is the goal of this board. Can someone email me the taper or point me in the right direction? 20 0.126 In other words as the load increased, more of the rod would flex in a liner fashion. . It also is fine on smaller streams. 'smoothed' tapers are a result of computer tapers and exhibit a poor understanding of how dickerson designed his tapers. If it's starting at the cork, somebody got their dimensions messed up. The best reason that I can give you as to why Dickersons are popular tapers (Along with another Michigan maker Paul Young) is that they are nice casting rods and fit our fishing very well. I think I originally posted this taper as Russ personally sent it to me. 0.153 Powell Rods. So a 13 size ferrule has a female and male sleeve that is .203 and a male insert that is .1718 or 11/64's. (Todd Talsma), I had rather hoped that I might finesse out of someone just what these specific requirements might be. The last page shows our interpolated numbers, on 5 inch stations, with varnish already subtracted, using both the Howell method (measure stations from the butt up) or the "classic" method (measure stations from the tip down.) 0.168 Are there specific numbers at the ferrule for, say, an 8013 where a 14/64's ferrule is used? We will see how it turns out. Bill Wara. 65 0.2565 The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection No question my friend John Pickard is the way to go for a Dickerson reproduction. (Reed Guice), Dickerson used the ferrule sizes in the rod to denote both the ferrule and the number of pieces in the rod. The long column to the right of that is what we think the raw cane would have measured, subtracting for varnish, and interpolating between our measurements so as to put everything back on 5-inch stations. Actually, your second post said what I was going to say, look at the graphs. (Tom Smithwick), See what Steve says, lots of people (Americans ? I've cast the original and it is one strong casting rod and deserving of the Guide Special nomenclature. 0.214 Consider this one if your maker plans on using Super Z ferrules. But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. My original Dickerson is an 861711D dated 1936. (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. (There is a table of blue numbers for each rod section). Gift of Heidi Bedford, Yearc. (David Zincavage), I wouldn't turn down a couple of each for crackers. One of our most recognizable rod models with a deep flamed color and crisper action. Because Ritz was not an engineer, any more than Creusevaut or Plantet were (although the latter may have been a competent mechanic) it was thought that the extension pole should be just that, a large diameter pole of slow taper. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) I've fished mine from a drift boat on the Green river and had great success. CANE RODS Tips & Tapers by Ray Gould has another version that averages out the step down. Just a topic to ponder on these slow summer days. You are correct, this is just a way of evaluating the effects of adding or subtracting material from different areas along a rods length. . DICKERSON 8013 RBS Special - 8' 2/2 - 5wt- honey colored - the legendary 8013 Special is an impressive and powerful med/fast action all-round trout -- taper miked from a Ray Bergman original shop rod. I love the 7612 Taper. Yes you do have the seemingly limitless variation of moving the point or points and amount of material added or removed along the rod length. What physical characteristics make a taper roll cast well. Its a very useful exercise. These get assimilated quite directly into stress curve approach. But if you decide to tell the world that this is therefore the right way to design a fishing rod then I'm going to disagree with you!" 15 .128 .278 A true 13-14 step down. Grayrock 96. Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? Fly Fishing Supplies & Gear. A few of the tapers shown on the deflection comparison page are not listed here as they are from active rodmakers; out of professional courtesy I prefer not to offer those for sale. If you want to see the justification for compound tapers look at the design of the Eiffel tower or any electricity pylon. Just basic principles that have been around for years. 60 0.231 142296 Since it was a know Dickerson Taper and not a myth I set out to recreate how I think Lyle would of done it and it came out sweet. I just read this to myself and it's obviously as clear as mud! (Robin Haywood), This would be very easy, but would impact on other desirable qualities. Dennis looked over his rod and it, too, has two nodes right next to each other. It didn't make since to me but went ahead and planed the butt section the way it was listed. Taxes and shipping calculated at checkout, Browse our bamboo fly rods in stock and available now, Browse our collection of reels in stock and available now. (Mark Wendt), I am wanting to build a Dickerson 7012 but cant find a taper that accounts for the step downs. The varnish is in good condition. If I were to make it I would use .040 bring the 80" value to .328, this is enough to stop all the rod action. 20 .245 .130 10 .112 .262 The point here being, if we can define areas along the straight line or linier taper. I have built Russ' version, which I believe was posted yesterday, and I love it. And why not? I would describe the rod action as very powerful, as you would expect from most Dickersons. Even if you take off 0.006 for varnish, in case that wasnt done, its still a 7 1/2 wt. In terms of rod design I think that it is really worthwhile considering as many design approaches as possible when trying to design and assess tapers. Pezon/Michel. 0.196 All 5wt with identical terminal tip and butt dimensions. Varnish of 0.004 subtracted. The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. We now have solid parameters around which to modify, to refine rod design characteristics. (Inches) (Inches) Stress I think we can say that adding more material to a tip section would produce more power and reducing material on the tip section will increase accuracy and delicacy of fly presentation. 80 0.296 121171 Consider one or the other of these two if your rod maker intends to fit the rod with step down ferrules, since there is a .010" step down across the ferrule stations. As a rule I only make #5 rods (like Marinaro) and the bulk of these are less than 7'6". Not that I very much care, these people have a perfect right to their willful ignorance. 55 0.217 145405 (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that. I have looked on the Rodmakers site under tapers and it is not listed. Most of the ones I have made and sold are the PHY Perfectionist taper. If you look at the individual changes every five inches, no they are not always .014, but the mean and mode are .014". He took the first step to improving them, inadvertently, you say, by fining down the tips. I hope this helps you out some, they are actually all nice rods, but as I said there is a little different in line sizes. I based the statement of one SLT for a line weight on Bob Norwood's tip dimensions. The trouble is, that's all it does! the grip so I did some interpolation. by FWdB 05/08/09 03:32, Post This is the equivalent of a Powell B-8.70, a bit slower than the Powell B-9. The point is this: a straight taper only leads to a flat stress curve, as you say, UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. In reading my post the tone seems a little harsh. The butt has a long flex area from 45"- 75" and a butt swell. Experience the difference of a Mystic Fly Rod on your next expedition. I've mostly used it for bass. (Robin Haywood). For example a 13 was really a 13.5? Are you so precise in your planing that all your stations are bang on, with less than .001"? 0.088 (Mark Wendt), Thanks Dennis! One from the 1950s, one from the 1970s, and Russ Gooding's Golden Witch version. ChristmasMissives - ChatRoom - PhotoGalleries - LineConversions - TheJourney - ExtremeRodmaking - Rodmaker'sPictures - Donate - Store. (Will McMurrey). 3 wt 0.0638 All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. Here's a classic Winston from the Hexrod taper archive. There should be 20 measurements not 19. If you want a starting point then make the rate of taper 20 thousandths per inch and hollow build to 50 or 60% of original wall thickness. You can do all the compensation you like for varnish thickness, ring weight and ferrules but you will still not produce anything like as good as a properly calculated compound taper rod. He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. Sorry! Dickerson 8014 Fred Bears Rod, 2606 -1. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive). We're committed to providing a safe, comfortable environment for our travelers. Regarding the similarities and differences between the 7'6" and 8' Dickerson's. Adding material to the butt section will stiffen and add power. I fish mostly Michigan streams where you are wading the stream casting to the edges, and casting to rising fish wherever you are lucky enough to find them. Obviously, custom tapers take a little longer to develop and build. (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank (NOW IN A GLOSSY DARK GREEN) $70.00 9' 6" 5wt. I will assume that you have calculated those several effects correctly, although I see no details. 0.278 Still looking for a guide to hire for a striper trip to the Bay. If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. 0.308 I finally made one for my wife and cut one into 4 pieces for me. That said, even this quite powerful taper isn't sufficient to handle large deer hair bass bugs or heavily weighted 2/0 streamers. My intention is not to criticize you, but to try to reveal the "big picture" when looking at tapers and stress curves. Step Down debate again. The ID of the female ferrule where it accepts the male slide is .187", or 12/64. Thanks for posting the Dickerson 861711 taper. But you also have the opportunity to add or remove material any ware alone the length of that rod and doing so will have an taper specific effect on the casting/fishing characteristics of the rod. I have not tried it with an 8 weight but I will as soon as I get back from Texas, ya'll. Apparently, the 'old masters' were just building fishing rods and not too worried about picking the fly poop out of the pepper. In the local streams we suffer the length to enable some sort of roll cast, but use #4 or #3 lines. Again, there is slight flattening around the ferrule, and I suspect the measurement at 35" is due to machine operator error/technique rather than designed in. All of the tapers that I am finding appear to be using a Super Z. I am not wanting to start the Super Z vs. Overhanging trees? I've also made an 8-1/2' with tip dimension of .072, which made a really nice 6/7 weight. Looking at the 5" dimensions for the Dickerson 7613 (1970 taper), there is a big swell under the grip. I have fit the ferrules but not glued them up yet. by thramerrods 06/17/16 04:28, Post Worked well enough for me to pass the test. double taper silk lines at short ranges. (Pete Van Schaack), Has anyone made the Dickerson 8015 guide special at some time? In the end I don't want to necessarily build a Dickerson 7613. Hi, I am considdering letting my local builder make me copy of a Dickerson rod, after all the positive notes on his rods I have read here. 1 2 3 There are several different specs for this taper out there, three of which I use. Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 8ft #5wt. Look at a graph of the rod dimensions. (Timothy Troester). )really love this taper. 25 .156 .310 That's not a lot to ask is it? Spotted lanternfly is an invasive plant hopper native to eastern Asia. Station Diameter I have modified these tapers to adjust them for what I think is a more modern feel. I have been gobs smacked many times when the customer turns around and says I like this one. . I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. Leonard patent, I believe. Users can select the appropriate Morgan Handmill Cutter to match the geometry including both the 60.5 and 61.5 degree cutters for hex rods. It has a butt swell of about .070 also. They tend to be slightly faster action than the classic designs on which they were based. I haven't tried a WF6 but suspect it'd be about perfect. 70 0.261 133729 (Mark Wendt), Was the varnish allowance of .004 already subtracted from the numbers for the 661510, or does it need to be done? Inquiring solvent-afflicted minds want to know. I own a Thramer 6611 and 7012 HB tapers, both with Thramer cosmetics and they are both awesome rods. 42 .194 .066 (Max Satoh), Yep, the drop at the ferrule is .014 which should call for the use of a step down. Howell says "they are just different" in his book, but I am looking for something bit more specific. 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